Sunday, February 21, 2010

Digital Frame or Standard Mat?


I could use your help/advice on a project.

I am having my first exhibit of my travel work later this year in NYC. Which of these printing options do you prefer: Printing the image without (top) or with (bottom) a digital frame?

Printing the image with the digital frame would let me sign the print itself.

If I print the image w/out the digital frame, I'd print full frame on the paper and sign the white mat.

Also, price not being considered, would you be more likely to buy a 24x36-inch print or a 24x16-inch print?

Your help sure would be appreciated.

Thank you!

Explore the light,
Rick

53 comments:

Scallywagger Alex said...

digital is more inviting, standard is more traditional, decide which format your pursuing for this exhibit overall.

Beverly said...

I prefer without. 24x16.

Hennessey G said...

Personal opinion is that because you are showing it I would go with the mat. Digital frame seems too informal to me.

Evan Ashenhurst said...

Definitly NOT the digital frame, just not my style, Also the smaller size, I don't have a whole lot of wall space being a photographer myself

Soren said...

I like the digital frame. I'd much rather have a picture that is hard signed right on the print itself as opposed to having the matting signed.

As for size, I personally prefer the 24x16 size, it's an easier size to find wall space for.

Josh said...

Digital, definitely. 24x16

Corey Luke said...

I like how the digital frame actually adds to the overall feel of the image. I think the black accentuates the HDR.

Money not being a consideration, I would rather have the 24x36 print.

Very nice image, thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.

Corey Luke

Scott L said...

Rick, I like the Digi Frame combined with the HDR in this shot. Considering HDR is outside the traditional box why not be aggressive and show a fresh look.
I prefer the larger image.

Alan Hess said...

I like that digital frame. When used correctly I think it can add to an image. It is a new technology that can make an image look like it cam from an old negative.

The only problem with digital frames is that they can look a little canned. Each image is a unique piece of art, adding an out-of-the-box-preset-frame might diminish the work if not done really well.

Alan

Rick Sammon said...

Ya know, one of the great things about a blog/twitter/facebook is that one can get instant feedback on an idea. Thank you all for your comments. I'll be checking here from time to time... and will let you know what I decide. Thank you again. And, if you are in NYC in December, I hope you can come to the exhibit. Info to come.

This life photography said...

I like the Digital it adds ti the photo. I always like a 24x36 print. really stands out on a wall

Terry said...

The car is larger in the digital frame version, I think I prefer that aspect but with the traditional mat.

AimeeJ said...

This is tough. I would definitely prefer the print itself to be signed. However, the top photo (without) is much better than the other. The bottom one loses too much ambient detail that makes the print really work.

Uschi said...

I like the digital frame with the HDR, and would prefer 24x36

Ed said...

I think that particular image looks stronger with the black border, at-least on my screen. Seeing the real thing up close may be a different matter.

Whether you sign the image or the mat wouldn't make any difference to me.

I don't think I'd be more likely to by one size or the other, unless the image had started to soften in the 36x24 version. There's no such thing as "normal" viewing distance - I like to be able to study details up-close as well as appreciating the whole from a distance.

Anonymous said...

I prefer with the digital frame - adds to the print. 24X36

Mark Williamson said...

I like the HDR with the digital frame, but I have trouble seeing it in the digital frame and then framed again. I always viewed the digital frame as a way of framing an image while on a screen. If the image is printed, I think it would be hard to find way to incorporate the digital image into the final product.

Ed said...

I forgot to add: I'd prefer a solid black border, rather than the faux brush-stroke (or faux anything else, for that matter). And I should emphasise that I think the border makes that image stronger, not necessarily any image.

Marty Cohen said...

Given the subject is a 1952 Olds, the digital frame complements the "antique" feel of the car. I'd be more likely to buy the 24x16-inch print because it is easier to find display space for the smaller size. Having a signature, to me, is more important than where it's signed.

Faylin Myhre said...

I prefer the standard mat but agree with Soren, would rather the print itself be signed rather than the mat.My hubby has restored a couple vintage cars so we definitely would go with the 24 x 36, it's a wonderful image!

Samantha said...

As I said on Twitter, I think the digital frame gives it a lot more character and makes it stand out and become unique. As for a size, I'd say go with 24x36 if money weren't an issue. It'd be good for over a couch or fire place that way!

Frank said...

Digital frame & 24x16

Eric Laberge said...

A little black seems to bring out the image more. I'm partial to the digital frame to complement the HDR look. Go big or go home! 24x36

Johanna Matthews said...

METALLIC PAPER!!! would look stunning on this image. (available in 20" Kodak paper using Kodak LED Technology) The paper actually looks wicked drymounted and laminated with a satinex finish, or frame with a double white mat under regular glass, you'll still love the paper effect. If you did the drymount and lamination I would add the digital border, but no brush strokes, just clean white, or maybe black. 24x16 image size appeals to me, maybe add a border to a 20x28 overall dimension would be nice.

jimpurcell said...

I prefer the plain no frame approach and would more likely buy the smaller version.

Sharon Delman said...

I like the digital frame, Rick. It adds to the image. And bigger is better, so go for the 24 x 36; your buyers will get their money's worth.

pnmaryf said...

I think with or without the frame will depend on the image you are printing. The digital frame is wonderful with the car photo in your sample. But I imagine you also have more formal pictures that would work better with a traditional look. As for the size, with the choice you've given, I would go with the 24x16.

Mr. Soul said...

I would normally say without, but with this image I like the digital. It adds to the feel of the image. As for size, 24x16.

Colin Wright said...

I definitely prefer having the print signed. To me, it's like a painter signing their work, or an author signing the title page. They don't sign the frame or the dust jacket, and that way the signature moves with the piece if it should ever be relocated.

As for size, that's tough. I love big pieces, but it seems like I'm seeing folks wanting smaller pieces. That seems to be less about the economy, and more about floor plans. The big, sweeping open-spaced floor plans nowadays don't seem to be including as much hanging space, and I'm seeing that in what folks are buying. So, put a tick in the "big" column for me, and a tick in the "not as big" column for the rest of the world.

Lastly, the digital frame. It's taken a long time for the digital frame concept to strike me very well. Originally, I hated seeing images that had those, but it's really grown on me as a part of the artistic expression of the photographer. I'd go with it.

Doug Johnson said...

I prefer without. Also consider a black mat. I think it brings out the contrast added by the post processing. 24x36 - in most cases bigger is better.

Adam Marin said...

Rick, I think the digital frame in this image, adds to the image itself. It is kind of a gritty/grungy image, and a gritty/grungy frame, completes the image for me.

To the size question, I would buy the 24x36 print, if price were not a factor. I like a nice big print myself.

Sharon said...

Congrats on the show! I can't believe it's
your first. ;)

I prefer the digital frame. I am loving digital frames these days. Maybe because I lack the funds to print and frame my own images right now. lol

Is 24x36 the frame size? Seems good to me. I'd only go smaller if I was doing a group of images.

@davidmonnerat said...

24x16 just feels more natural for this shot, at least. i've got a frame i'm looking at right now that might have the 2x3 dimensions, and it works for a portrait or, in my case, multiple pictures inside a frame, but 2'x3' is pretty big, and bigger isn't always better.

for the matte, in this case, the digital looks better. it has the right vibe for the picture, and it's something that i think we couldn't do as easily or creatively in the past, so take advantage of it.

Keith Bennett said...

Digital frame as a signed print ads a high degree of personalization. 24x16 allows more sales at a lower price point. If you go with 24x16, let viewers know you will do custom sizes for them.
L8R

Art said...

I think a better question to ask (if you're talking about selling photos) is not "which do you prefer", but rather "which of these would you consider buying" and allow you to select one, neither, or both.

I think you'd find that most people would be OK with buying the standard version (even if they *prefer* digital), but many would dislike the digital version.

As far as size goes, I have to agree that the smaller size has more application in most homes and thus, again, probably has a broader appeal.

Is it not possible to display it in one format, but offer to sell it in the buyer's choice?

Heymo said...

Don't do the digital frame - to me it screams "...I can't afford a real mat, but who needs a stinkin' mat when you know how to use CS4?".
A signature on a real mat also looks much better IMHO.

Also, probably 24x16.
There is only space for one or two 24x36 in an average house, but lot's of possibilities to hang a 24x16.

Good luck with your exhibit!

Adam Schellenberg said...

Although the frame looks pleasing, it still seems less elegant.

24x16 is easier to place in most homes.

Thanks for being such a fantastic guy to the photographic community Rick.

colleen said...

with the HDR, I like the digital frame. It makes it pop. And signing the photo would be a bonus. I love the bigger pictures - 24x36.

Colimer said...

For the grundge based HDR, I thing your black framing is what you need. I agree with several others that a signed print, esp. with the printed framing is perfect.

For the display print size, I think that you need to coordinate with the gallery, but offer to print a signed, numbered print in a the size other than that displayed.

Barry said...

IMHO the digital frame positively reeks pretentious and phony. (The faux color HDR doesn't do it for me either, but that's another story.) Stick with the standard frame and let the picture speak for itself.

Dave Kesarisingh said...

I standard mat is best. It's my opinion that the digital frame would date the images as, if you remember KPT fractals appeared everywhere. Digital frames may be fine for websites and images which aren't long term keepers, but not for wall hanging.

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Betty Wisse said...

I don't like the black around the photo for a print. Why don't you print the photo with a little space around it, leaving extra room at the bottom to sign, then put on the mat showing about 1/4 in of the paper around 3 sides and 1/2 to 1 in on the bottom where you can sign the print,( almost like a double mat). I have seen this done by many photographers and it looks terrific.

Clark Crenshaw said...

I earn my living selling my photography at art festivals. http://www.clarkcrenshawphotography.com/
A buyer with a collector mentality will probably want the work matted and framed. The digital mat looks good on the web but presents a problem for framing. You don't want the image to be touching the glass, it will eventually stick to the glass. Not archival. You would need to laminate or clear coat with something so you wouldn't need glass. Buyer's who are looking to decorate the house have overwhelmingly preferred canvas for the last 4 years. Many old style photography purists don't like to see them that way.
Nobody has ever cared that I sign on the bottom right corner of the image. If it doesn't sell you can re-use the mat. Not sure about NY but most new homes I see have high ceilings and big rooms. 24x36 still isn't big enough. People with small homes and small money will probably want a matted 8x10.

Rick Sammon said...

Thank you everyone for great info!!

Anonymous said...

In this case, I think the traditional matte shows off the example photo better than the digital frame.

Dwight said...

I'd go without the digital frame. I think the digital works better for "virtual exhibition" to websites, etc. For printing, matting and framing I prefer the full frame and I just sign on the image itself.

Joe said...

It seems like the traditional matte wins here! I have to agree with the majority. As much as I love the digital frames, for someone collecting photography, a traditional matte is the way to go. I've limited my use of digital frames to images being put in photo books - that's where I find they really shine!

Brad Mangas said...

I prefer the traditional mat in size 16x24.

Anonymous said...

I would go with the digital frame for the shot of the car and I'd probably purchase the 24x36 print.

Jay said...

Rick, I prefer the traditional mat/print combo. A real mat adds a sense of style, a touch of class, and most important (for sales) a sense of VALUE.

Can you offer more than one size? One photo may benefit from a smaller presentation, while another from being printed large. If only one size can be used, go for the smaller, as more people would be better able to fit a smaller print into their homes.

Anthony Woodhouse said...

I think the digital frame looks nice with HDR images and 24x36 :-)

Susan Woog Wagner said...

I like the digital frame a lot, but from reading the comments, I don't think you can please everyone all the time.
Go with YOUR gut.
It's your image.

KC Dover said...

Rick-
Since you will be exhibiting your photos in NYC, the traditional, non-digital frame, will work better. The emphasis should be on the photo, not what's surrounding it. As for signage, any signature on the print or frame can be discarded. Stay with a stamp or signature on the back of the print. Also, I would prefer the 24x16 size.